. >> it's hard to be a president and say you don't like the latino population because you're not going to pass the dream act which he's now agreed to pass as of yesterday. i couldn't believe it. >> going back to what i was saying before, what will the presiden annunciate tonight as his growth agenda? how will he get this economy going? and how will candidate romney do the same thing? what will they be saying to the american public? >> he's going to say i'll hold the spending until it gets to 20% of gdp. and that will avoid massive tax increases. and as long as those tax increases are hanging over the head of the economy, we are not going to get robust growth. we're kidding ourselves, it's been four years, we haven't gotten it. what howard wants to do is go off the cliff, get $500 billion of tax increases and $100 billion of spending cuts and you still got another $300 billion. >> that is not what the fiscal cliff does. restore the tax rates to bill clinton's tax rates. and we had a pretty good economy. >> that's $350 billion. >> we had a pretty darn good economy when we were playing bi